THE TEMPLE OF GOD
THE TEMPLE OF GOD
WJH I thought to speak a little together of God’s building as finding expression in the local assembly; another of the great thoughts of God, for He would have His building in every city and town where His people are, as well as His husbandry. He would have a building that is HIS standing over against the constructions of men and of Satan, all of which are in view of the exaltation of man and display of Satanic wisdom and glory. The Lord would help us to embrace these thoughts as worked out practically in the locality where we are. The tendency with many of us, I fear, is to hold them abstractly only, and as applicable to the whole assembly, but not to see that God works them out in a living way, in the locality where we live. It is true that all these thoughts find their complete expression in the assembly as a whole, but they are worked out where we are, and no brother or sister can profit fully by the universal thought, unless he is prepared to face the working of them out locally in a local setting.
EE Will you say a few words as to what is the thought of God’s building? Is it a completed thing, or is it something in construction?
WJH Both thoughts are here in this chapter. There is the idea of the building in process, and we are each to see how we build — what material we put in; but there is also the thought that “Ye are temple of God.” Not that you are becoming such, but that you are, so that both views are right and applicable at the present time.
JSD How does the thought of God’s building, as presented here, link with the thought in Ephesians where you get “All the building fitly framed together increases”?
WJH That looks on to the assembly as the temple in its universal setting, including all the saints from Pentecost till the Lord comes. It will then be seen that God has, during this period, built a temple for Himself, and it is growing at the present time, but it is equally true that there is a temple here in Sydney that is God’s, and the more we embrace that, and are governed by it, the more we will contribute to it, and get the gain of it.
NBS In Ephesians, it is the Spirit’s work that is in view, is it not? Here it is a question of what we are building.
WJH Quite so. Hence responsibility attaches here to those who build, as to materials brought in.
AC What is the difference between the two expressions “the assembly” and “the temple”?
WJH The great thought of the assembly is that it is the vessel of divine wisdom. Any matter can find a settlement morally in the assembly, because it is the vessel of God’s wisdom; but the temple is, I understand, the place where the light of God shines, where divine glory is expressed, and where holiness is maintained, whether it be in the whole assembly, or in the local assembly — these thoughts are true of both.
DJM “Ye are temple of God.” Is that characteristic?
WJH Yes. It is not exactly “the” temple of God, as the complete thing. But, “Ye are temple of God.” That is, it is a feature corresponding with the whole temple seen in a local company.
NBS Would you distinguish for us a little more the difference between the building and the temple. The building was under construction.
WJH I thought the bearing of “Ye are God’s building” is that there is something in course of construction where His people are in any town or place, but it is also true that they are the temple of God, and the thought proper to the temple is available to the saints locally anywhere.
Ques Would you say the local idea is that it is something the saints can partake in?
WJH It is the opportunity God gives to work out His thoughts, and give them actual expression, rather than that they should be held abstractly only. Hence the importance of all of us taking our part in what is local. Some brothers seem to be very happy in relation to what is general, and move about freely, but are lacking when what is local is involved, and are not prepared to take their part locally. But the local position is to work out livingly the great principles that are proper to the assembly universally.
EE I think that is important. Is the house of God a little different from the building of God?
WJH Yes, I think so. The thought of the house of God is that it is where God dwells, and where His character is known and expressed. But the temple emphasises holiness and glory particularly.
EE I was wondering if the idea of God’s building did not bring the Word of God into a public setting. It is God’s building in testimony.
WJH Quite so. How well, therefore, for young hearts present to let this thought into their souls, that here in Sydney, God has His building, therefore, is there anything better than to be connected with it? Satan has his building, and the world has its building, but God has His, and am I going to make His building a subsidiary matter!
AC I thought, in that way, it would emphasise the greatness of the Spirit. It says here, “Do ye not know that ye are temple of God, and the Spirit of God dwells in you?” (1 Corinthians 3: 16). It is the greatness of the temple — the Holy Spirit dwelling in the saints.
WJH Which is a very great matter to recognise — God’s Spirit, Who is God Himself, particularly as active in discernment. The seven spirits of God, the seven lamps, and the seven eyes are all connected with the activities of God thus.
JSD Are we all builders, or is it a matter of option?
WJH It is a matter of responsibility to see how we build, showing that all have a responsibility in relation to it, and what we build is largely what we are ourselves.
NBS It says, “The work of each shall be made manifest,” suggesting that there is some work of some kind by every one of us.
WJH Very good.
Ques Does the temple suggest God dwelling amongst His people?
WJH That is particularly the thought of the house of God — that it is a dwelling place for God, but the Spirit of God dwelling in the temple would assert the glory of God, and maintain holiness. We rejoice that there is that here in this city that will assert the glory of God. Every one in His temple says “Glory.” That is glory to God, not to anyone else, and in His temple holiness is maintained.
Ques Would you say that the divine idea is that men should be able to take account of that?
WJH Yes, the temple is magnificent. When you think of a temple, you do not think of a tent. The tabernacle was a tent, and was not intended to convey the thought of magnificence, but nearness; but as to the temple — David said the house that was to be built must be exceedingly magnifical, and it can only be magnificent as it is holy.
WP Would you say that the temple is a complete thought, and what the saints are building is in view of coming to completion in accord with it?
WJH Yes, I think that is right. You have the thought that “Ye are temple of God,” but then, there is the present construction going on in the light of that. This does not alter the fact that “Ye are temple of God.”
Rem That was said even to the Corinthians.
WJH It was to correct unholiness, and also the tendency to glorify man, “reigning as kings,” as they did.
JSD In regard to the building, I was wondering whether each one of us is not more or less unconsciously building either on lines which are in keeping with Christ, or on other lines — natural or even worse — which will have to be tested by fire. We are not always conscious of this, I feel.
WJH That is very important — that to some extent we are all contributing to the building, and the apostle says, “Love builds up.” Knowledge puffs up. God’s building is not added to by what is puffed tip, it is substantial. Love builds up, and the activities of love are constructional. Activities of selfishness and sectionalism, gathering persons round oneself, would be destructive, but the activities of love are constructive.
Ques Would the building, in that respect, have some connection with the foundation The apostle seems to dwell a good deal on the foundation.
WJH The foundation determines the kind of material suitable for the structure. It is another kind of Man — Jesus Christ. A lowly blessed Man, but One Whom God has anointed, as distinguishing Him, and He is the foundation of God’s building. If we bring in any other kind of man, we are bringing in material that fire must consume.
EE I think all our hearts must accept that, because if it is to be God’s building, it is to have stability.
EJ Do living stones compose the temple The Apostle Peter connects that with the spiritual house where the service of God in priesthood goes on — a somewhat kindred thought; but the thought of the temple is, that there is a structure in Sydney that will assert holiness and will assert that God’s glory alone is to reside there. Come what may; challenge it who will; God has His temple in this city.
AC And every one says “Glory.”
WJH Quite so. A most important matter. “Every one” as the New Translation reads. Every one that is properly part of this temple utters the glory of God.
DJM Does it become us, in drawing near, like Isaiah, to say, “Woe is me, for I am undone.” The seraphim are saying, “Holy, Holy, Holy.”
WJH I think that is the bearing of the great place the temple has in first Corinthians — the termination of what is unholy. The apostle determined when he went there as a master-builder, that he would know no man save Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. It was his calculated decision.
JSD So that the foundation really is Jesus Christ — the Person — not so much His work?
WJH That character of man. Any other character of man is wood, hay, and stubble, which will be burned by fire, and is to be burned now by the saints in this city. Let us not wait till the Lord comes.
JP Is there any difference in character between God’s building and that building spoken of in Matthew 16, where the Lord says, “I will build my assembly”?
WJH The great difference is that one views the assembly as for Christ “My assembly” — what is for His own heart in that company. This Scripture views the temple as God’s — what is here to conserve the glory and holiness of God.
EH The temple is not spoken of in the eternal state, because the holiness of God only is in evidence, is it not?
WJH So that God then reverts to the thought of the tabernacle. In eternity, it is not the temple of God, but the tabernacle of God is with men. God can come so near, eternally, to men, as to dwell in the tabernacle, but until that day, the temple goes through to the end, throughout the world to come.
Ques So that you mean He will revert to the idea that was first set, forth in Exodus?
WJH The tabernacle is the primary thought of God, but consequent on sin being present, even in the Millennium, God must have His temple, and it must say “glory,” and it must be holy, and He is there, and if any of us defile it we are fighting against God.
Ques That was secured in One Person, would you say?
WJH The Lord said, “Destroy this temple.” All was present in Him.
Ques And now the divine idea is that it is continued and secured in others.
WJH It is a magnificent thing to lay hold of — that once God introduces one of His thoughts, never will it disappear. All the powers of hell will never move a thought of God — and the temple is one of His thoughts.
GHW Abraham looked for a city whose Builder and Maker is God.
WJH He looked for a city — which is another one of the thoughts of God, and goes through.
JSD In regard to the thought of the temple in Revelation, is that connected with the saints of the present dispensation?
WJH Yes, and it there has relation to dealing with evil, not in relation to the new heavens and new earth. We greatly need this feature in Sydney. Evil arises, and the temple comes into evidence. We can be sure that as Satan sought to destroy the body of Christ which was “this temple,” so Satan is seeking to destroy any expression here of the temple where holiness is maintained. If we support satanic activities, we are fighting against God, and the end is certain.
Ques The challenge by Ananias and Sapphira was to the Spirit of God in the temple, would you say?
WJH Quite so. Ananias and Sapphira describe exactly what is referred to here. “If anyone corrupt God’s temple, him will God destroy.” They deliberately agreed together to bring corruption into the temple of God, and the fire of divine judgment removed them, and it will ultimately do that with anyone else who attempts the same thing.
KEF “God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints.” Does that bring in the temple character of the assembly?
WJH Yes, for God is there.
EHG Is not one of the features of the temple that the voice of God is heard there?
WJH A very attractive feature. The oracles are there. The assertion of holiness and divine glory in the temple, assures that we hear the oracles. But allow Ananias and Sapphira a footing, and never will an oracle be heard again.
NBS This thought would search every one of us; it would also comfort and encourage us in desiring what is for God, in the assurance that it is God’s temple and that He will prevail.
WJH We have not to do the destroying. “If anyone defile God’s temple, him will GOD destroy.” All we have to do is to maintain in integrity the holiness of His temple, as a place for divine glory. The enemy would bring in what professes to be an oracle, but is not.
EE King Uzziah in the pride of his heart, and when he was strong, as he thought, went into the temple and desecrated it, and it says the Lord smote him. God is jealous for the conditions where He has put His name.
WJH I am sure that we need nothing more greatly than the maintenance of the truth of God’s temple. One of the divine thoughts as to saints in this city is, “Ye are temple of God.” Therefore, all corruption, carnal or spiritual, must be excluded, and if there is any attempt secretly, like Ananias and Sapphira, to bring in what is corrupt, God will have to say to such, as He had to say to them. There is no possibility of escaping the seven eyes. They see everything, and if we think we can deceive God, we have no conception of Who God is.
JP These words of the apostle would come home with force “Know ye not ye are temple of God.”
WJH That is the great corrective.
HSH I suppose you would say, we need not fear the consequence of the maintenance of holiness amongst us? I was thinking of Ananias and Sapphira. It says, “Of the rest durst no man join them, but ... believers were the more added to the Lord.”
WJH Quite so. If anyone thinks that he can defeat God, he is on the losing side, and is deceiving himself.
EHG It is interesting that “corrupt” and “destroy” are the same word. Corruption in the temple of God means destruction.
WJH I think it is well for every one of us, and the young particularly, to grasp that until the Lord comes, Satan and his hosts will not cease to try to destroy anything that has features of the temple. The thing was seen in its supreme perfection in Christ. The Lord says, “this temple,” referring to His body. His body was the temple in all its glory, in all its holiness, in all its light. Satan never ceased opposition till he had energised man to destroy it, and we can reckon on a continuance of this.
HG John introduces the words “destroy this temple” very early in his Gospel. It is the opening chapter, so to speak, in the Lord’s public ministry. What would you say to that?
WJH It shows the hostility from the outset, against the temple, as with Ananias and Sapphira. The temple was constituted by the coming of the Spirit, and it was there in Jerusalem — God had a temple in that city, and before many days passed, Satan, using Ananias and Sapphira with a lie, attempts to destroy it, but God destroyed them.
RS Under the testing of Satan, what is wrought of God will be magnified.
WJH Quite so. As it is said, “Great fear” came on all of them in Jerusalem, and “of the rest durst no man join himself.” But the people were multiplied. The way to multiplication, dear brethren, is to assert the rights of God.
Ques Was that asserted by the widow, when the Lord was over against the treasury?
WJH That passage shows one who loved God’s dwelling place, so that she devoted everything to it she had.
EH She did not make it a house of merchandise, as was seen when the Lord went into the temple and drove out those who sold oxen and sheep, and so on.
WJH Quite so. He would not suffer anyone to bring in a package into the temple. A most important matter. The Lord will not allow packages in the temple. Sooner or later, He will have every package taken out.
Ques What is the thought of a package?
WJH Something hidden. Something wrapped up that is not disclosed, and there are packages at the present time in this city, and the Lord will deal with them. He will have these packages opened and the contents made clear, so that they may be judged in the light of the temple of God.
EE Is that not a very serious consideration? This morning, we were concerned about the assembly, and we are responsible, as such, to separate from what is not according to God but what you are bringing before us now is, that God Himself will safeguard His temple.
WJH Quite so, it is the temple of God, and let none of us attempt to fight against God.
TH Would you say that Ananias and Sapphira were trying to bring worldly wisdom into the assembly?
WJH They tried to bring in a package. They had a package drawn up in their home, the two of them. They consulted to express a lie, and they brought this package into the presence of the Spirit of God, and they were smitten, as every one will be who deliberately brings a lie into the temple of God. Let none of us attempt to evade this. If we bring a lie into the temple of God, we are challenging God, and there is no escape.
DJM If holiness marks the saints, will there be light preserved to us in the holy place — light as to Christ by the Spirit?
WJH That touches the other side of the temple, that it is the place of divine light. It is where every inquiry can be met.
DJM The Lord said to Ephesus, if they did not repent He would remove their lamp.
HSH Is the temple where things are preserved? Joash was hidden six years when the attack on the seed royal was made.
WJH That is a very important matter. The great effort is against the seed royal. The concentrated activities of evil today are against young men, so that there should be no posterity continued here for these thoughts of God, and affection and priestly activities will hide the young in the temple.
Ques Would you say that the boy Samuel was found marked by the right spirit, serving in the temple in a linen ephod?
WJH That is very good. It is the place where Samuel grew. If you will look up that passage, you will find that three times at least, the Spirit of God states “Samuel grew” and “grew on” and “grew before the Lord,” showing that spiritual growth is in the temple, and if we give up temple conditions, stagnation will result with every one of us, but if we maintain them, there will be growth, as seen in the early part of Acts.
Rem When the children of Israel did not maintain holiness for God, they were driven into captivity and the temple was destroyed.
WJH We shall lose what God has given us if we do not maintain this great feature of the temple — holiness — whether it be in our associations, in our actions, or in our doctrine.
Ques Would you say that is why on the day of Pentecost, the spirit of God came as cloven tongues of fire, so that all that is not according to God might be removed?
WJH That is the bearing of the Holy Spirit’s presence. The Holy Spirit is here as the power to judge evil.
RS Is holiness connected with hearing what the Spirit would say?
WJH I think hearing His voice would lead to an earnest desire to answer to God, and that must be in holiness, and it would also lead us to a desire to see God, and without holiness no one shall see God.
FHG Do you think that we confound holiness and righteousness very often? It says nothing about righteousness here.
WJH Holiness is a state, righteousness has to do with actions, and God will be with His people in His temple as the state of holiness is there. It is not a question of saying, “What actually wrong thing have I done?” That is not the point. The question is a state that would repel connection with anything that is unholy.
RS The presence of the Holy Spirit would draw attention to things that are not in keeping with the temple of God.
WJH So it says, “Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God.”
JSD In the question of holiness, are we to take account of what we are in the mind of God, other than what we find in ourselves, if we look within? For it says here, “The temple of God is holy, and such are ye.”
WJH The passage looks at things as they are according to God, that where the Spirit of God is there is holiness, and that God’s temple is there. That is the thought of God, and the thing is to let that thought into our souls — that we are part of and move in relation to God’s temple. This would settle many matters for us.
KEF One who is walking in holiness can say, “I have loved the habitation of Thine house, and the place where Thine honour dwelleth.”
WJH Let the truth into our souls, and there will be concern to conform ourselves to it. That will settle many problems.
AC The condition at Corinth was anything but good, but the apostle says, “Ye are temple of God and the Spirit of God dwells in you.”
WJH If they (as they did, thank God), let that into their souls, they would immediately put away the wicked person from among themselves, and immediately proceed to judge themselves, and to weep in relation to what was unholy.
RS Do you think the Lord would be the Pattern to us in John in relation to bearing? He says, “As I hear I judge, and My judgement is just.”
WJH That is what Scripture is for, that we might hear divine thoughts, and then judge in the light of them, not in the light of human standards.
RS I suppose in that way everyone would be carried in judgment?
WJH The flesh would be silenced. How impressive is an assembly meeting where God rises up in His temple, silencing all flesh, and dealing with evil. It is a most awe-inspiring moment.
NBS What is proposed in regard to the temple as suggested in the dedication of Solomon’s temple, is very wonderful. If things are so ordered that the ark is given its right place, the presence of God is known and manifest among His people, and so the glory filled the temple.
WJH That is what we should have before us; this line of things is to secure the presence of God. A stranger comes in and he says, “God is here.” That is what we shall have if temple character is secured. It will be followed by the glory coming in. But there is no hope for the glory to be present, if we give up the character of the temple.
EE I feel if I were to gather up what is in dozens of young souls present, they ask, “How can holiness be promoted in my soul?”
WJH That is a very good inquiry, and it touches what we had this morning, that every thought of God amongst His people together has its root in the exercises of each heart individually. So that if I am to be in the assembly, the vessel of divine wisdom, I begin by loving Christ and becoming one of wisdom’s children. If I am to be in God’s husbandry, a plant in His plantation, it begins by an honest and good heart, allowing God to speak to me, and receiving the seed of His word there, facing what that seed requires as soil. If I am to be in the temple, it has its root in the recognition that my body is the temple of the Holy Ghost. That is an individual matter: my body is held as a temple of God’s Spirit. How free one would be then to move and to dwell in the temple of God.
JP So that in Romans 6 the apostle says, “Having got your freedom from sin and become bondmen to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end eternal life.” Holiness would become apparent as we become free from sin.
WJH Righteousness leads to holiness. The more exercise each one of us has as to righteousness, the more we will be led on to what is holy, which is a state. But unrighteousness will soon be evident in unholiness.
Rem Psalm 24 speaks of “Clean hands and a pure heart.” That makes room for the King of Glory to come in — One mighty in battle.
WJH That is what we want to make room for, that God should come in. Before the church is raptured I feel there will be an increasingly conscious sense of the glory, and our brethren in other localities are getting it more than we are, and the reason is that there is more temple character there. But let us face this exercise; not simply to deal with what is unholy, but to make room for the glory.
AC What does Peter mean when he says, “Ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory?”
WJH It would indicate that there was nothing, as far as he was conscious that would hinder the glory fully occupying the ground. Fully doing it — filled with the glory.
EE If we are failing in holiness we should see to it, and come into this great end. Does the thought of loving God come into the matter? Does holiness really spring from loving God?
WJH I am sure that is right. David says, “I have loved the habitation of Thy house, and the place where Thine honour dwelleth.” He loved it as loving God.
JSD Did Isaiah in the sixth chapter indicate the experience through which he reached holiness in the consciousness of his soul? His lips were touched with the coal from off the altar.
WJH Quite so. The effect of the contact with the death of Christ brings about love, and love is the spring of holiness. I would like to go back to the root of the matter. The question is — Are we prepared to entertain that the believer’s body is a shrine for the Spirit of God?
Let us look at our private habits and ways, our business activities, our reading matter. What are we touching with our bodies? Can we say that our bodies are held as temples for God’s Spirit. The body includes all the members — not one member excluded.
Ques Does 2 Corinthians 6:16 touch on that side, where he says, “What fellowship has God’s temple with idols. Ye are the temple of the living God.” Idols compete for God’s place in the heart.
WJH I am sure that is right. The holiness of God demands that no association contrary to God and to Christ should exist. But it is not a very big step to corrupt God’s temple, if our bodies are not held as temples. It is not long before the person whose body is no longer held as a temple of the Spirit corrupts in a wider sphere, and as soon as that happens God is against such.
HG Was the work of Ezra and Nehemiah figurative of the recovery of the last days to maintain holiness?
WJH Especially did the enemy try to bring about unholy associations linking up those who belonged to Moab with Israel.
EH Do you think that there must be the maintenance of righteousness, if holiness is to be present?
WJH Righteousness is first, but it leads to holiness. I am sure we find if we are concerned to do what is right in every sphere, little by little it leads to holiness — a repellent attitude against any unholy matter. The opposite also is true — that the moment you allow an unrighteous act, then you have opened the door to an unholy state.
RS Is holiness connected with what is due to God?
WJH It must be, for God is holy. The living creatures before His throne never cease, night and day, saying, “Holy, Holy, Holy.” We need to remember that.
RS The presence of the Holy Spirit here would draw attention to what is due to God, do you not think?
WJH Surely. These living creatures before the throne are full of eyes, before and behind and within. They are looking in front, in the direction in which we are going, and they are looking behind into the past, of our activities, and looking within, as to what is going on inwardly, seen by no one. God has these living creatures.
EDL Does the last verse have any relation to what you have been bringing before us, “All things are yours, and ye are Christ’s, and Christ is God’s?”
WJH It has a very great relation, that if the holiness of God’s temple is maintained, then God is free to give us the gain of the ministry that He sends — Paul, Apollos, Cephas; and then He asserts that we are Christ’s. The ark is enshrined in the temple. David designed the temple as a place for the ark. But then, Christ is God’s. You have a wonderful chain thus, God and Christ, and the saints; and the saints have all the benefit of the services under the hand of the Lord.
EE I was thinking of Solomon’s completion of the temple. God was so pleased with it, that He filled it with His presence, so that the priests could not minister, as much as to say, “I want all for Myself.”
WJH ‘The thing for us to see is that both in regard to the tabernacle and the temple, when the construction was finished, the glory filled each. We are near the moment when, in a universal sense, both the tabernacle and the temple will be completed; the final touches are in process, and the glory is coming in. I believe we can say the glory is drawing near, and, therefore, it is imperative that the holiness of God’s temple should be asserted without fear or favour.
TH Would the result of holiness be that one becomes a pillar in the temple of God?
WJH What a wonderful suggestion, that in a day of unholiness and departure, of disloyalty to Christ, there should be overcomers of whom the Lord says, “I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God.” Such stand out as supporting the holiness of the divine temple. The promise is in the address to Philadelphia, where we have the great recovery of the church’s love to Christ.
Ques Is the thought of glory the shining out of what God is?
WJH Yes, and with that, the sense of His presence. When Solomon’s temple was finished, the cloud of glory filled the house, and the priests were not able to minister — every heart bowed down in holy worship to God, with the sense that God was there. That is how this dispensation will end, and the exercises that are increasing in many places that holiness should be maintained and evil be dealt with, lie, I think, in the fact that the building is about to be finished and the glory is coming in.
NBS It would help us greatly, especially the younger ones, to get the gain of this last verse, “Ye are Christ’s, and Christ is God’s.” We so often regard things as a system. Everything is for God’s pleasure — for Him.
WJH That was really what one had in mind in suggesting what we have had. God has an assembly. Could there be anything equal to being in that? God has His husbandry, where He is growing His own plants. Do we want anything else? God has a; building and a temple. Do we want to be part of any other building? Do we want to miss the glory of His temple? A young man said to me the other day, “What harm is there in so and so?” If God’s great thoughts came into his heart, such a question would never have been asked.
GHW There is a tendency with us to reduce the standard to meet current conditions. What you have said this afternoon would be a denial of that God’s thoughts are unalterable.
WJH The conditions in Corinth were just about as sad and humiliating as we could conceive, but Paul told them God’s thoughts, in order to put matters right, and they are the only thoughts that are going to stand, and they are going to stand everlastingly. The thing is to embrace them like Abraham, and the patriarchs did. They embraced the promises, they let their hearts out to them — they loved them, and ordered their way in the light of them.
EE What the apostle gave in his Epistles, he gave for the then existing need, but they are also for our adjustment.
WJH It is remarkable in that way that the Spirit of God makes clear that what Paul says to the Corinthians he says to us. He says to the Church of God at Corinth, “with all that in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.” That brings the instruction right down to Sydney. It is in this place this Scripture applies.